i got really high on my first essay for that class where the guy behind swore cause it was so complicated. (check my sep 26th blog) It's pretty exciting, and I have no qualms in pointing out the ppl who really helped. My one-on-one time with my prof, my friend Dave (who was equally lost, but two blind men working together have a of potential), and God. Somehow, He thought it prudent to further bless me beyond the initial grace of salvation and gave me this great mark.
the next essay is due next week..
Dave says 'hi'
posted by amac @ 10:25 AM
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Dave doesn't seem to think he was equally lost...
was that the hegel essay dat u were working on wen i last talked 2 u dat i still haven't received in my inbox?
probly i'll send it over. though i think you'll like the Kierkegaard one I'm writing now. so much more poetic
Ah kierkegaard... So good.
send dem both.
kirkegaard is awesome. i need 2 read him more.
loco: you are a nerdface.
so, do u guys have thoughts on whether he was really a Christian?
well i'm not as well read as all u philosophy students are... but i will hazard a guess and say that he was a Christian. i like to think of him as an early Donald Miller. lolz.
lydia: sadly i am. u have no idea how many times i have offered to do research for other ppl. (well research on things i like... if it was philosophy, psychology or maybe theology, even sociology... alright, if itz a social science basically...) sadly, no one has taken me up on my offer. and i'm left asking people to send me their philosophy papers. or psych papers. i'm currently reading a law paper that a friend of mine wrote about "la liberté de réligion" that pretty much solidifies my nerdface status, i think.
"...whether he was really a Christian"
thats a pretty heavy question eh? regardless of whether we're talking about kierkegaard or billy joe down the street...is it possible to know whether someone really is a Christian or not?
by their fruits they shall be made known...
That test is so problematic on so many levels though...
By that test, Kierkegaard was NOT "really a Christian" as it has so been put. The man was depressed, paranoid, and therefore crazy a lot of the time. He was definately a theist, I don't think there is any doubt of that... and I'm inclined to think that he was a Christian, because when was the last time that you heard a liberal theologian even suggest that one should take a "leap of faith" and accept the belief in God on faith and faith alone?
I have to admit though that I haven't read a LOT of kierkegaard, so my info is slightly lacking.
can you be a Christian and still be depressed?
i think one should be careful how they use the term crazy. many solid Christian men and women have suffered from disorders such as depression.
anyways, this is a deviation from the discussion on kierkegaard, but i find your statement, "The man was depressed, paranoid, and therefore crazy a lot of the time" pretty offensive, as though someone who suffers from a psychological disorder is automatically crazy. i think one should be careful how they label people.
My bad. My intentions were not as such. Allow me to reword.
"Kierkegaard allowed his depression and paranoia TO(emphasis) drive him crazy." In no way did I intend for anyone to draw the conclusion that what I meant was that, in general, depression and paranoia automatically makes someone crazy. What I meant was that in Kierkegaard's case, it DID quite often lead him to strange actions and words that many construe as crazy.
My bringing this up was meant to point to the often problematic test of "by their works they shall be known" when utilized with our limited human knowledge. As you'll notice in the rest of my post, I do hold that Kierkegaard was a Christian.
yeh, i think it was a poor question, cause even professors don't really know what Kierkegaard's convictions hold.
He was pretty depressed, and seemed to mislead women fairly often.
But it looks as if he absolutely loves the 'paradox of faith in Christ.'
something i struggle with about him is he seems to place a greater emphasis on his philosophy than on the truths presented by the Bible. He doesn't seem to contradict the Bible, but it's hard to trust what he's saying.
yeh, i think it was a poor question, cause even professors don't really know what Kierkegaard's convictions hold.
He was pretty depressed, and seemed to mislead women fairly often.
But it looks as if he absolutely loves the 'paradox of faith in Christ.'
something i struggle with about him is he seems to place a greater emphasis on his philosophy than on the truths presented by the Bible. He doesn't seem to contradict the Bible, but it's hard to trust what he's saying.
Lydia, disorders aside, what do you think about Christians who fall into depression, and don't get out. A lot of missionaries seem to suffer in it.
Would you say it comes with the job, or is it avoidable?
it's a question open to anyone
i can't believe i've commented so much on my own blog without response.
my pastor told me (and he's with the missions board) that about 85% of missionaries LIE in their reports to get funding (hmmm... strangely reminiscent of "publish or perish" within academia)and that 90% end up being very depressed and quit missions altogether (and that's the nice thing... some go into severe backsliding)
i think that being a missionary (just like any other "calling" in life) is fraught with difficulties and such... but doesn't necessarily need to translate into depression for the person. maybe there should be a screening process (a more severe one than what is currently used) to better gauge a person's capability/ability to be a successful missionary. although by saying that, the problem of spontaneity must be dealt with. i mean abraham was told by God to move and he moved right away (ie he didn't have a screening process to go through) so i'm not completely sure how to address this problem. i guess just do what God wants u or calls u to do.
easier said than done.
p.s. i should get bonus points for writing in "English" :P
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